The mainstream news organizations have published articles about Michael Jackson’s confusion over his racial identity, finances, and the incendiary child abuse allegations.
However, was Michael Jackson gay, bisexual, or straight?
What do you think? I think Michael Jackson was a very complex, depressed, and confused man.
I also think that Michael Jackson resented his African American features in favour of European features.
43 responses so far ↓
robert // Wednesday , July 1 , 2009 at '23:26' |
It does appear to me that what dominated MJs life was fear and self hatred, his homosexuality being a major part of that. I wish that things could have been better for him, I cant help but think if he could have come to accept himself we might still have a much healthier MJ alive today. But if there is a lesson to be learned it should be that we should all love ourselves first and that may show compasion towards others so that they may also come to love and respect themselves.
Geri // Thursday , July 2 , 2009 at '7:02' |
I voted “I am uncertain if Michael was straight, gay or bisexual.”
He was clearly and visibly “transgendered” to quite a significant degree. That doesn’t have to mean he wanted to be female. That doesn’t have mean he wasn’t sexually attracted to women – or wasn’t exclusively attracted to women. A “queer” man can be “straight”.
When the police searched Neverland they found porn magazines and dvd’s which were reported as being all heterosexual in nature.
I really doubt that he was homosexual. If not heterosexual then bisexual seems more likely. I also think it’s quite possible that he was mostly autosexual in practice and only had sex with other people when the other person initiated it.
Wendy // Thursday , July 16 , 2009 at '0:10' |
That was my general impression, until I read Halparin’s book about Michael being gay. Now I’m not really sure.
mjfan // Saturday , November 14 , 2009 at '8:40'
Ian Halperin is a fraud, please I hope no one in their right mind would actually believe the BS from that man.
“Ian is no stranger to writing questionable and unsubstantiated material, and has been doing so since the 1980s when he was still a student reporter. In 1984, an athletic director at his college filed a $100,000 libel suit against him and another writer for making multiple allegations of improper conduct within the university’s athletic department. Ian was later criminally charged with providing false testimony and lying under oath in the civil case after three different sources denied providing him with any of the information he claimed they had. Ian fled Canada to avoid criminal prosecution and remained in Great Britain for 2.5 years before returning to face the court. In 1990, the judge in the case said he was forced to close it due to a lack of corroborating evidence presented by the prosecution, although Ian did serve time in jail for fleeing the country.”
mjfan // Saturday , November 14 , 2009 at '9:00'
forgot to add the source link for that quote
http://mjjr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=511&t=926
phebek108 // Thursday , July 2 , 2009 at '7:15' |
I totally agree with you. Just blogged about Michael hating his own race and sexual orientation. It’s a shame such a handsome, talented guy like him ended up wasting away in total denial.
http://phebek108.wordpress.com
Sarah Fingass // Friday , July 3 , 2009 at '5:21' |
Michael is not even gay.
Hes more bisexual or asexual.
and he had a skin diease and he bleached his skin to match the skin with the blotches.
He was a kid trapped in a adults mind.
He was always shy when the topic “sex” comes with him”
straighttothepoint // Friday , July 3 , 2009 at '17:28' |
I believe Michael was straight. Like Prince, the musician, he enjoyed being able to accentuate his style of dress. However, he was not trying to be a woman. I read a comment about Prince that read: “he is above sexuality”. I believe in what the Bible says regarding people like both Prince and Micheal. Individuals likened to them who have died, (those that are peculiar to most) will be brought back in the resurrection. They will be like angels.- MATTHEW 22:30 SAYS: for in the resurrection neither do men marry, nor are women given in marriage, but they are like the angels in heaven. This scripture helps us to appreciate that BEING LIKE THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN, shows that there will be those resurrected on a restored paradisaic EARTH, and not everyone has a heavenly hope,(heavenly resurrection). A cross reference to this scripture is Luke 20:35. What this means, is that they (male or female) won’t have a desire for sex at all. Some term this disposition as being Asexual,such as can be likened to the holy angels in heaven. In this since, they are ABOVE SEXUALITY. However, Prince, the musician, seems to have a sexual desire for women. Even though his dress sometimes accentuate that of a female. He also seems effeminate at times, although this in itself doesn’t mean that he is homosexual. I have both male and female friends who enjoy wearing clothes designed for the opposite sex for various reasons. The females feel that men shoes, underwear, and shirts are more comfortable. The men like wearing head scarves to keep their hair groomed. Some men like to accesorize their outfits by wearing scarves. Some men wear two earrings. Some wear mascara to highlight their eyes, customs and etc. Although women tend to “get away with” wearing men clothing that are viewed as strickly masculine, males who wear articles that are viewed as strickly feminine are given names such as; gay, homosexual, sissified, and etc…. I don’t believe Michael allowed the world to “brand” him with a characterization that they thought would fit him. To me he carried himself as a straight male who appreciated femininity without apologizing for it. Most gays to me tend to apologize for appreciate femininity by letting the world “brand” them, so to speak. Wearing a type of clothing doesn’t make someone a homosexual, although this is the perception. Having sexual relations with men is what is called homosexuality. So, I believe that Prince and Michael both, has made dynamic statements without saying a word!
straighttothepoint // Saturday , July 4 , 2009 at '11:09' |
What is so very wonderful about Prince’s and Michael’s style of dress, is that it is not so feminine after all, compared to some of non-American countries. In Bible times, the early Christians, and many middle-eastern countries, men still wear what we here in America call dresses. I know you’re familiar with the adage, ‘when in Rome, do what the Romans do.’ However, some feel stumbled in American culture, to see a man in a dress, due more to the issue of morality. Again, the perception is, when our culture sees a man in a dress, is either he’s a transexual, gay, or etc . . . However, wearing clothing to pass oneself off as one of the opposite sex can be deadly. It could pose a security risk. If not revealed to your potential mate that you are one of the same sex is wrong, and demoralizing. They deserve the right to be informed as to what they CHOOSE to do with their own bodies.
Mad Blogger // Saturday , July 4 , 2009 at '23:28' |
I really dont care.. Now that we talk about him in the past tense. remember he was a fantastic entertainer and remember him for his art!!!
what do we remember about Leonardo Davinci 500 years after his death? Its his wonderful art he left behind and not his flamboyant lifestyle!
Nena // Friday , July 10 , 2009 at '3:41' |
I cannot believe how people are ignorant. Michael was never ashamed of his race, of being black. First:Have you ever seen any black person with vitiligo- skin disorder? You can watch it over you tube.
Why everyone believes what people write about famous stars, I always want to hear it from stars themselfs what they have to say about different topics. You can also watch his interview with Oprah in 1993, he explains a lot what tabloids made up about him. So what if he wanted to have children with a woman but not have sex with her. He WAsn’t attracted to her, but he really wanted to have children. How many woman are having children on their own, because they don’t find the right partner in their lives, that doesn’t mean that they are gay. And even if Michael was gay, who cares, we love him for his music, for his art.
I am really sad that WORLD had recognised his work only after his death.
Lynn // Saturday , July 11 , 2009 at '1:23' |
I totally agree. I think him being a closeted homosexual would explain his unhappiness which was manifested in his many plastic surgeries, his drug addiction, and isolation. He was miserable. He could have had a different woman every night, but did not. The sequined military jacket, the makeup, the hair-yeah he was gay-I know all gay men do not fall into this stereotype.
And he played the role of straight man with two marriages and may have even had sex with them. Gay people do pretend to be straight. He obviously thought it would hurt his career, and who knows, it might have, which is sad. As for hating being black, I think that is complex. His father teased him about his nose, a feature that is associated with race. His father is to blame for that.
Nancy // Monday , July 13 , 2009 at '22:29' |
I strongly belive that Michael was bisexual. He could be asexual too.
Carrie // Tuesday , July 14 , 2009 at '0:18' |
I don’t know. Though, I think his sexual orientation was questionable…I don’t know what to believe.
As a female who was attracted to other women, it there was everything I learned from the LGBT Community, “what looks, walks, and talks like a duck is a duck” doesn’t always apply. Though, some people may engage in homosexual acts, they made not “identify” as gay or bisexual.
I do believe he was relatively happy in his first marriage. However, the second one was questionable.
cloud // Tuesday , July 14 , 2009 at '9:09' |
I think he is straight. Ever heard about Prince? or glam rock? or Visual Kei in Japan? They dress up like girls, they are make up, but they’re undoubtedly straight. But who cares, only the person can know if he is a homosexual or not. The term ‘closet gay’ is an offensive term for straight males.
brownie // Sunday , July 19 , 2009 at '1:24' |
ok why when he’s dead all of a sudden he’s gay
secret kept for so long please, he’s famous, would have been public already it’s all rumours anyways so many peolpe dressed up like him and immitated him for a long time
get a life people
Mariah Scarey234 // Saturday , August 8 , 2009 at '23:38' |
I think Ian Halperin is just mad MJ did not want to lick his lollipop
smb // Tuesday , August 11 , 2009 at '0:38' |
I’ve gone back and forth on this one for a while. I thought he was asexual and now I’m thinking he was more heterosexual or bi by nature but lived much of his life celibate. His marriage to Lisa Marie by her account was legitimate, w/ a healthy sex life, and she has always been frank about the problems she had w/ him, so why lie about that? I do believe he truly loved Diana Ross as more than a mother figure.
Youtube has phone conversations between MJ and a female friend from 1992 that were supposedly used during the trial to establish that he was interested in relationships w/ women. During these calls he expressed a real desire for a hetero relationship but didn’t want to have sex until marriage. I think he had a v. hard time establishing relationships and this includes romantic ones. Youtube them and listen, they are compelling.
As for his phys. changes, aside from vitiligo/lupus, he clearly had difficulty establishing a firm identity – so it changed constantly. I think there was a great deal of self hatred, stemming not only from his father’s criticisms but his own feelings of “badness”. His skin change reflected his difficulty accepting himself as is, not (to me) discomfort w/ being Afr. American. He over & over expressed pride in black culture through his words and music.
Tragic how arguably the most talented entertainer ever never, ever felt he was good enough. The lesson here, among many, is to take care of each other, each other’s souls, really. His was so damaged very early on and it never healed.
Sara // Tuesday , August 11 , 2009 at '2:09' |
No, he was either straight of bisexual. He was deeply unhappy, but not because of denying his sexuality. According to some people he did have gay flings, but then there’s also the Omer and Pia thing where Omer is his alleged child..Michael said it himself, he feels most comfortable being on stage. Off stage he’s shy and nervous, because as he’s said, everything away from performing is foregin to him and he once said how friendships were new to him. That’s so sad. I wish he had been able to do the normal childhood things we take for granted. Like having friends that aren’t your siblings…
Michael had no respect for himself. He had a huge heart and loved people, his family, his fans…he knew his fans loved him so genuinely and when he hugs them on stage, sometimes dancing with a woman, bowing to her..it’s all very natural, very real. So because he felt most comfortable on stage, I think everything he shows is pretty much the real Michael. The sexuality on stage is himself, too. He said he wished he could sleep on stage.
So the Michael outside of perorming is someone he obviously doesn’t feel as comfortable in the skin of because he didn’t get much experience growing up being ‘non -performing Michael’ the deemed bizarre traits the tabloids showed where broken, fragmented pieces of Michael that was merely his turmoil and depression, of being the Michael outside the performer. For some reason, as a child, I don’t think he was taught to respect himself and to love, respect and accept himself. Perhaps even if Katherine tried to teach Michael this, Joe ruined it with his constant critisims about Michael’s appearance, calling him ugly and “Big Nose” and Michael got teased about his acne a lot. Body Dysmorphic Syndrome says that the main hatred of self image is the SKIN, NOSE, and HAIR. Michael changed his skin colour to white, although he may have had vitaligo, therefore bleashign his skin to rid the blotches, or he may have not..(but i think he did) he certainly altered his nose, way too much. He had a complex about his nose and who can blame him from the emotional trauma of what his father always said to him, always called him? apparently he hated his ‘nigger’ hair. But I loved his hair. It’s sad that he suffered this body dysmorphic mental illness…sufferers can’t see themselves the same way others do. No matter how hard they try to change their appearance and look nice, they always see ugly. Disrespect for himself. I wish someone had told him he had beautiful features and they didn’t need to change because they were beautiful and they were his.
maria jaques // Tuesday , August 11 , 2009 at '21:42' |
na minha opinião michael, se apaixonou pela sua propria aparencia,mas ele não erá gay ele queria uma mulher que não fosse tão ousada, ele que tinha que tomar iniciativa mandar na cama.Eu ainda procuro por ele pois sei que ele não morreu.beijinho michael
Nuni // Monday , August 17 , 2009 at '18:10' |
I voted that I am not sure. But in the end, no one really knew what was going on with Michael but Michael. I think he was confused, probably about several things. I feel bad for him, that aspects of the mega-talented and creative man’s life were just tragic. I cry for the waste of it, the loss. Michael looked happy to me when he was with LMP. He also looked and dressed more masculine. Maybe he was more confident in himself having found love. Perhaps having a poor image kept him from getting close to other people, including women. Maybe he truly respected God and his beliefs as a JW and wanted to remain a virgin until marriage but his beliefs conflicted w/a very different way with the entertainment world. He probably met with many strange looks, especially by the women he expressed an interest in. He probably felt the pressure to conform, including the use of alcohol an drugs, too. I’ve read (comments from regular folks in forums) that he loved women and that he dated several. I choose to believe the man had vitiligo and was brave to continue with his life in the public eye in spite of having to change himself so drastically.
I wish he’d been more happy. I thank him for the great music. I love to watch him dance.
Susan // Friday , August 21 , 2009 at '21:49' |
I voted that I don’t know if my beloved MJ was straight or gay. I am not sure he knew.
I wish I could have a conversation with a gay man who could help me figure the signs out.
He loved women no doubt. Diana Ross and Lisa Marie come to mind, but sex to him might not have
figured into the equation of love.He may have had sex with male dancers or musicians but no attachment would have been possible.
I just don’t know. I do know that MJ was wildly sexual on stage. When you watch him in concert, afterwards you feel you
have had sex with him. He is that explicit. But I have to say-Michael was the most famous man in the world.
If he had sex with random men we would have heard about it that is for sure.
As the years go on I am sure we will know more about MJ’s sexuality.
I suspect that all one has to do is read MJ’s lyrics and we get an incredible glimpse of a man who was in love with the idea of love.
Rarely did Michael ever write a love song without the word “GIRL” in the song.
This has made me really wonder, was he the girl he forever sang about. I don’t know.
I love him so much. In his prime, he was the most beautiful sexy man I ever saw in my life.
Perhaps Lisa Marie someday will reveal, with respect, just who he was.
Wendy // Sunday , August 23 , 2009 at '1:52' |
Michael was “A” sexual. Both divorces ended with irreconciled differences.
Elle // Tuesday , August 25 , 2009 at '18:32' |
Bisexual I voted. I think he was quite confused, and he had so many contradictions. It’s difficult to tell fact and fiction with him. I liked some glam rockers from the 1970s and despite the image of them – makeup and costumes – many of them were actually straight and groupie fiends. They realised that dressing up and wearing makeup actually brought them more attention from teenage girls if anything.
But with MJ, he had hardly any eperience with women until his mid thirties. Liza Minelli was married to gay performer Peter Allen, and I read a recent interview in which she insisted that they had an active sex life.
Some say that he was just indifferent to sex, and that explained his relative inexperience. His lyrics and performances don’t give much of that impression to me!
Joe Jackson has been quoted making some fairly homophobic comments, Katherine too. If I remember correctly MJ was under their influence for quite some time, not leaving home until his mid to late twenties.
Some girls who are fans of his claim the basis of their attraction to him is his sensitive, fey, reserved and ‘gentlemanly’ nature in the area of sex (they seriously insist that he is an ‘angel’ trapped in an earthly skin!) But those are also features of gay men. It’s said that Liz Taylor formed many friendships with gay men because they appreciated her for more than her looks. Many of the very young fans seem to have a very idealized, detached from reality image of him, perhaps from not being there in the era when he was most active. They think in nearly fairy tale terms.
Time and again there were rumours that MJ was taking female hormones in order to retain his high vocals. True or not is anyone’s guess (anything seems possible, if the plastic surgery is anything to go by). But what kind of physical and psychological effect would all that have on a person over a long period of time?
In MJ I see a strange mixture of self-hatred and narcissism. I know that he had Vitiligo which caused the skin colour change. But he also further anglicised his features with plastic surgery and cosmetics, and was recorded talking about how he hated his hair, using the ‘n’ word. (I’m mixed heritage myself and my hair is more the texture of my black ancestors.)
In a fan book a makeup artist told how he would ask to look ‘pale and pretty’ for photo shoots. I don’t know what kind of bizarre idealized form of beauty he was searching for in his procedures, maybe some old Hollywood type of glamour. He may not have even been that conscious himself of what it was he was rejecting and accepting in his appearance, it was anything in the name of looking how he thought he should in front of a camera.
‘The Picture of Dorian Gray’ comes up as a comparison – the 19th century fictional story of a young man who sells his soul in exchange for eternal youth and beauty.
I was a fan in the early 1980s but by the end of the decade, physical changes aside, it seemed there was a noticeable difference in the personality of the man. At the time, it was difficult to totally explain. Now it seems the most likely reason is drug abuse. That, and also his sexual identity crisis, perhaps explains how he came to make such a mess of his life.
MJ comes across to me as a very traumatized individual, but I think unfortunately he allowed himself to be a victim of circumstances too long. It’s the classic thinking of an addict. And I have had personal experience of both trauma and addiction. There are people who overcome enormous obstacles and emerge okay in adulthood, or even become better people as a result – they are motivated to help and to prevent suffering in others. MJ made steps in that direction, but it was the demons that ultimately won out, after he was beset by a series of nearly freakish events. Anyhow, I doubt we’ll see another like him, at least not for quite some time – nobody pushed themselves to the limits he did, but he paid the price. In many ways, I think it’s symbolic of the end of the silver screen era of larger than life superstars.
Not all that glitters is gold.
Minou // Saturday , October 24 , 2009 at '23:43' |
I loved “Elle’s” comments…. articulate, thoughtful, incisive. Michael Jackson was indeed many contradictions manifested in a supernova talent. Michael’s sexuality has always confused me. No one so aggressively sexual on stage can be “asexual” in life; sexual energy is as normal as eating and breathing. How he acted on this energy? I am inclined to think he romanticized love relationships with women, but it’s clear he was not comfortable with sexuality, or real intimacy, with women. Schmuley Boteach, MJ’s rabbi for a time, felt Michael had misogynistic tendencies.
Michael may have been naturally sexually attracted to men but so loathing of that orientation that he stayed fairly celibate. After all, he hated his hair and nose, but could do something about those traits. Plastic surgery doesn’t cure homosexual attraction.
I think if MJ had had female or male lovers we would have heard about it by now, just as everyone else seems to be crawling out of the woodwork to cash in on their five minutes of fame by association with Michael.
Minou // Saturday , October 24 , 2009 at '23:46'
What I meant to say was: MJ’s incredible sexual energy probably had some outlet, but we are waiting to see with whom… it is possible that MJ had confidentiality agreements that extended to beyond the grave, so that his estate/heirs could sue anyone who actually “told all” about any sexual liaisons with Michael.
Sarah // Sunday , August 30 , 2009 at '7:20' |
He is straight … i don’t see any evidence that he is gay or bisexual … i believe that he is straught … he is a feminine guy but not gay …
Y. Jackson // Sunday , August 30 , 2009 at '11:00' |
I believe Michael Jackson was a straight, Black, handsome entertainer, that reached all sectors of the populace, with his dream, through re-inventing himself, to not be rejected, in his abilities and potentials in becoming the King of Pop and humanitarian to the world. His haters simply, thought he had too much money, for a single, vibrant, youthful, Black , mega-entertainer. The only way to do it was to discredit, what the people loved so much about him; his voice, his sexuality and his child-like innocence. Also, he wouldn’t have put invasive cameras in every room of his mansion, to monitor his children at all times, being a very private person; if he abused children.
obbywolf // Tuesday , September 1 , 2009 at '10:54' |
look at it straight up. michael lied about his plastic surgery. he lied about being the childrens real father, people that are hooked on drugs have to lie to get drugs .the police chief said they took out bags of kiddie porn but thats not eligle michael was getting older and anybody that danced on stage probaly needs alittle upper . to keep him going then he would have needed help getting down and to sleep
jojo // Thursday , September 10 , 2009 at '7:03' |
Mariah Scarey234 Saturday , August 8 , 2009 at ‘23:38′ | #15 Reply | Quote I think Ian Halperin is just mad MJ did not want to lick his lollipop
i so agree with u
Jole // Saturday , September 12 , 2009 at '21:31' |
I miss Michael so much. Partly because I really identified with him. I am extremely shy and have a terrible time establishing an kind of relationship. As far as his sexuality, I guess there is no way of really knowing. I doubt that he was asexual. Rember they said that about Clay Aiken? and look what happened there. I think almost every healthy living person has a sex drive. The thing that makes me think that it was more likey that he was homosexual was that his marriages both seemed odd, especially the second one. If he had a normal marriage with (can’t remember her name/the blond derm nurse) then why were the kids artificialy inseminated and not with his sperm? That makes no sense if he were heterosexual. And that fact that you never saw him with another person romantically (except Lisa Marie) seemed odd and also made it seem like he was probably just ashamed of his true sexuality. When I saw him with Lisa Marie it seemed stilted and fake. I have no idea why she would like about it, maybe he did have sex with her but it seemed like it was more to appear to be hetro rather than that he was hetro. He did have a lot of the mannerisms of a gay man although of course that doesn’t necessarily mean that he was gay. I think Michael was probably very emotionally immature thanks to his awful childhood and asshole dad and that probably led to a somewhat confused sexuality. Also, there was the time when you always saw him walking around with young boys everywhere he went. That really isn’t normal for an adult male. Anyway, my thought is that he probably was mainly homosexual and maybe just a little hetro or at least wanted to be hetro. I wish he were still here. I miss him so, so much.
corvedacosta // Monday , September 21 , 2009 at '7:57' |
i think he had many issues but either the media made him do these things or he was just crazy. thats the only way to describe his antics. he had a childhood none of us wanted – father beating him and a mother not having the strength to stop it-so he was also looking for something he never had.
mj was the same person he was in his childhood-one eye-witness in jamaica said while mj was on a trip to jamaica while the other brothers were inside talking he was outside playing with animals n flowers.
straighttothepoint // Thursday , September 24 , 2009 at '10:24' |
Remember too, all of Michael’s siblings grew up in the same household. People deal with adversities in life differently. The other children got disciplined as well. Michael, like myself, was very sensitive, so it is very possible that HE FELT MORE BRUTALIZED THAN HIS SIBLINGS WERE BECAUSE OF HIS SENSITIVITY. Talk about growing up in a household like his. Like what? Nowadays, parents are molesting their biological and stepchildren, smoking around their kids, having the opposite-sex living in the same house without benefit of marriage, and the list goes on and on. At least they were taught moral values. Under the circumstances of Joe constantly being laid off, there was the strange of making ends meet with nine children. At least he didn’t leave his family like most (sorry) black men tend to do under severe distress. There is no doubt that Joe himself was deeply depressed at times. If only he followed the principles of fatherhood in the Bible at Deuteronomy Chapter 6, and at Ephesians chapter 6, he would have dealt with his children better. On the other hand, Katherine did.
orvillelloyddouglas // Wednesday , October 14 , 2009 at '16:25' |
I think Michael Jackson was either gay or bisexual I don’t believe he was straight.
Minou // Saturday , October 24 , 2009 at '23:50' |
Orville: As a gay black man, what about Michael makes you ultimately think he was gay or bisexual?
orvillelloyddouglas // Sunday , October 25 , 2009 at '5:05'
Hi Minou I think Michael may have been bisexual or gay because I feel he had something to “hide” and a lot to lose. Yes, white gay singers like Elton John are very popular but John is white not black. Michael would have received a lot of negativity from the black media and community if he was gay. Remember Luther Vandross the “eternal bachelor”. EVERYONE knows Luther was gay but he could not come out BECAUSE in the black community it’s taboo still. There was a “don’t ask and don’t tell” policy for Luther and it’s sad.
Michael is an enigma. For one thing the Debbie Rowe marriage that’s bizarre. Michael married Rowe because he wanted to present to the world an image he was “heterosexual”. Even though EVERYONE knows he did not SLEEP with her.So why would a straight man get “married” to a woman just so she can have his babies as a surrogate?And the strange thing about Jackson is many people believe those kids aren’t even his OWN biological children! Yes Michael had plastic surgery but his DNA is still of a black man yet his children don’t appear to have black heritage.
A straight man would SLEEP with the woman he would not PAY the woman to have his children. Ricky Martin the still “closted” Latino singer is a perfect example of a gay man that should come out. Martin had twins through a “surrogate”. Come on! Martin is a thirtysomething gorgeous man. Millions of women would SLEEP with Martin for free!
Once I heard about the “surrogate” for Martin I knew he was gay. It is well known that gay men go through a “surrogate” to have their own biological children yet NOT have to SLEEP with a woman. And the reason why is because gay men are gay! A gay man does NOT want to sleep with a woman so it’s more complicated for a gay man to have a biological child.
It’s easy for a lesbian because a lesbian is female she can have “children” on her own and get pregnant. Since men can’t get pregnant it’s so complicated for a gay man to have his own biological child.
A straight man would NEVER PAY a woman to have his children he would SLEEP with the woman. I think that’s the real indicator to me that Michael was not totally straight. I am not sure Michael was “gay” because Lisa Marie Presley says they had “sex”. But I don’t think Michael was straight or comfortable in his own “skin” about his sexuality.
I remember when I was “younger” I was in the closet because I had “something” to hide. Let’s be how many gay black male singers are successful in the music industry? I can count none absolutely none. Yes Michael Jackson had plastic surgery but he’s STILL black! I think the issues of race+ sexuality + sexual orientation come into play with Jackson. I can’t take Ian Halperin’s crazy book seriously because it’s all rumours. However, Michael was very effeminiate and I just find it hard to believe a totally “straight” man would be that way.
Minou // Sunday , October 25 , 2009 at '12:31'
Thanks Orville. I agree with your take on Jackson. It is unfortunate that gay black men, in particular those in entertainment(or of celebrity) have to completely suppress their homosexuality to be accepted.
This has been true of other ethnicities, such as your example of Ricky Martin. Clay Aiken did come out, but he is white. So did Adam Lambert (very gay & proud). Hopefully more enterainers can do so without fear of prejudice.
Nonetheless, I don’t think ANY male entertainer, regardless of color, would easily be able to “come out” when a huge chunk of his fan base are girls/women. I live in liberal L.A., used to live in S.F. and have always had gay men in my life; my girls’ godparents are a gay couple. But even I would have found it hard to relate to Jackson’s romantic crooning (about girls) if he had been public about being gay. It is just a huge disconnect!
This way, with MJ’s sexuality still an enigma, women (and gay men) can be “thrillered” by his on-stage seduction.
Whoever MJ wanted to or did sleep with changes nothing about his exceptional talent and humanitarianism.
I am interested, though, if you think he may have molested boys. Aside from the Chandler and Arviso cases, there were at least 3 other suits initiated against him (by boys’ families) where MJ paid settlements. In Chandler’s case he slept with the boy for a whole year.
I don’t know if MJ was innocent or guilty. A friend who worked as as private investigator on the 1993 case told me that Michael was “a serial pedophile”. As this man is someone I consider a thinker who does not rush to judgment……I am concerned that there is truth to the allegations against MJ.
This does not mean that Neverland ex-employees or anyone with an ax to grind or motive for profit did not try to take advantage of Michael Jackson by exaggerating or spouting falsehoods. Certainly Jordie Chandler’s father was a slimy character. But does this mean Michael was entirely innocent just because the victim’s father tried to milk the situation for $$$$$ ??
I wonder if we give MJ too much latitude for his being “a misunderstood victim” of the police, media and grifters. If anyone else, a 40something non-celebrity had behaved the way MJ did (his feminine attire, hair, full makeup, grotesque plastic surgery, lavishing gifts and trips on boys (and parents) of poor families, etc. etc.), having serial “sleepovers” in his bedroom with only boys aged between 10-14……..wouldn’t we find this creepy? Would you let your own kids share a bedroom — alone — with someone like that?
My emotions want to believe MJ was innocent of all accusations, but my intellect is on the fence.
orvillelloyddouglas // Sunday , October 25 , 2009 at '18:00' |
I don’t think Michael was a pedophile but I do believe he was a naive man. I feel Michael was a very sensitive, caring, and loving person. According to the Guinness World Records Michael was the celebrity that contributed the most money to charities. Michael was a great humanitarian.
straighttothepoint // Thursday , October 22 , 2009 at '19:38' |
Some people turn gay, ONLY AFTER they’ve been told that they are gay. Being flamboyant and dressing in women’s clothing, doesn’t make one gay. Have sex with men is what makes a man homosexual.
straighttothepoint // Sunday , October 25 , 2009 at '20:39' |
Sometimes ppl that are gay, want others like Michael or Prince to be gay. Can’t a man be effeminate without being gay? Yes. I know plenty of them. They are eccentric, (not the norm) loving, humble, creative (not necessarily flamboyant) fun to be with, intelligent. Jesus Christ was such a man. Never had sex, never been married, loved children, loved ppl, a great humanitarian. By the way, John, his first cousin, placed he head on Jesus’ chest. No sexual anything going on. Why can’t men love without being labeled as gay? Jehovah’s Witness men in Africa walk down the street holding hands. Here in the states, if they did that they would be labeled. Anyway, It is natural to want to love and be loved. If you are a man, the first man that you should kiss is your father. I watch hispanic men, not to mention JW men who kiss their sons all the time and hold them in their arms. A young man needs this. Hundreds of thousands of JW’s that were practicing “sex” with ppl of the same sex, have chosen not to have sex, or to marry ppl of the opposite sex, because they know they don’t desire it. However, they await the time when God will open his hand and satisfy the desire of every living thing. That’s found in the book of Psalms.
mjfan // Saturday , November 14 , 2009 at '7:42' |
Anyone who thinks Michael was not sexually attracted to women needs to watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOUGpKjEcgo
He was dancing with a fan and at 0:56 you can clearly see he had an erection. This is not the first time he has been caught on stage having an erection after being with a female either.
Let’s also not forget all the heterosexual pornography they found in his home, magazines and dvds plus an article on how to find the G spot. Tell me what gay man would have straight porn and any interest in the G spot?
He might have been bisexual but I absolutely believe he liked women.
mjfan // Saturday , November 14 , 2009 at '8:05' |
“”Let me break this down for you people and pay attention because I don’t
like doing it more than once. Michael Jackson is thoroughly heterosexual. He does not like men. He does not like boys. He likes women over the age of 18. Shiiiiit, even before he was 18, he liked women well over
the age of 18.
It’s no secret within certain circles that Diana Ross was his first. The poor guy thought he was going to marry her but she @#%$ him over with Gene Simmons and Arne Naess. He was pretty naive back then, so he choose not to see the obvious. Then he was celibate for about 3 years, before becoming involved with a pretty, blond employee of his, an actress from a popular ’80s/early ’90s sitcom, a singer that nobody cares about anymore but was the ish back in the day, some
groupie/secretary, June Chandler (the mother of punk @#$%$ Jordan who got jealous of mommy’s relationship with Michael) and, of course, Lisa Marie.
Lisa Marie was the only one he allowed himself to become more than just
sexually involved with since Diana, that boy was sprung. Lisa Marie,
however, led him to believe they would have a family of their own, but stayed
on the pill anyway because even if she said she was a rebel, the little
@#$%$ didn’t want mommy dearest to get mad at her for having a lil
black child. Mike found the pills, split, messed around with a couple of
other women with the goal of getting one pregnant just to hurt Lisa (he
can be an as.shole sometimes, true) and eventually knocked up Debbie,
which, (if I didn’t love and adore his children and think think they
saved his life)
I would say was probably one of the biggest mistakes of his life. He was never faithful to Debbie after they married, never even wanted to marry her but Mike doesn’t like to break his mother’s heart. He and Lisa continued having sex until 1999 (they weren’t “together,” they were just @#%$), until he met his third child’s mother, fell very much in love with her, but he is his father’s son, so he wasn’t entirely faithful to her, which is why they split up shortly after she found out she was pregnant.
From that time, up until right before these new bullish allegations broke, he was pretty much a dog. No attachment, just sex. He has no time to get attached to somebody and then depressed again after they part ways now that he has his children. I doubt he has time for anybody other than his children and his lawyers now.
There, you have it. Take it or leave it, but it’s the truth. Mike would
hate me for putting his business out here like this, but at least it’s
accurate, unlike all of the other trash going around now. He ain’t my
boss anymore, so he’s just going to have to put up with it.”"
From a former employee, Frank Tyson.
Minou // Saturday , November 14 , 2009 at '17:39' |
MJFan — where did you obtain this quote from Frank Tyson????
Thanks, Minou